Improved Hordes

7 days to die improved hordes, 7 days to die animals, 7 days to die zombies

Horde alert, Survivor!

There’s been a sudden abundance of Zombies all over the place. Screamers are now popping up in major towns, and we’re finding sleepers on the road. Stay safe out there.

Backstory

This mod was initially an idea FilUnderscore came up with after playing A19, and reflecting on the past alphas where he felt wandering hordes used to be more dangerous and unpredictable. He wanted to bring this back and focus on improving both wandering hordes and scout hordes, to bring more difficulty (and customization) into the game, as he felt the only real threat was the blood moon.

Features

Improved Hordes

Customizable hordes that scale in size and difficulty, with gamestage & biome progression, to keep the game feeling balanced.

World Roaming Hordes

  • Hordes are now commonplace, you’ll encounter many on your journey.
  • Hordes are simulated throughout the world and load in when nearby.
  • Each major POI zone (i.e. cities) has hordes moving in and out constantly, while screamers patrol the zone.
  • You will also find smaller roaming hordes in the wilderness. They may either be lost, or making their way to a city.

World Event System

  • Heatmap-like system that attracts nearby hordes depending on heatmap activities occurring in certain areas. The number and size of the hordes depend on where the activities are occurring. Near a city? Expect huge hordes to wander around and find out what’s going on in the neighborhood.
  • Screamers contribute a lot of heat if they spot you nearby, attracting hordes nearby. Make sure to take them down quick or you’ll be having many hordes knocking on your door.

Enhanced AI Behaviors

  • Hordes investigate interruptions to their current task as Zombies are a curious bunch.
  • Hordes can also merge and split in size, depending on their goals as a collective.

Installation

Note: This mod can be added to existing saves to start working, no new save is required. To remove the mod from an existing save, just delete the mod.

Download and extract the zip containing latest release into the Mods folder.

Client-only: Disable EAC so the game can load the Improved Hordes DLL.

Dedicated Servers: This mod is EAC friendly and only needs to be installed in the server’s Mods folder. Your players do not need to install the mod to play.

Settings can be modified in the Config/ImprovedHordes/settings.xml file in the ImprovedHordes mod folder.

Commands

Note: All commands require a permission level of 0.

For a full list of commands, type in the console

help improvedhordes

Wiki

For information such as changing mod settings or creating your own custom wandering/scout hordes, check out the Improved Hordes Wiki.

Mod Support

This will work with any mod that does not modify the vanilla AI.

Donations

You are already showing a lot of support just by enjoying the mod, but if you really appreciate FilUnderscore’s work and want to show extra support in the form of a donation, feel free to buy him a coffee on Ko-fi.

Screenshots

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7 days to die improved hordes additional screenshot 4

Terms of Use

Definitions

  • Private Use = Using the mod for personal use or hosting/running a server with the mod installed.
  • Binaries = The DLL file (ImprovedHordes.dll) distributed alongside the Improved Hordes mod.
  • Source Code = The files that fall under the “Source” directory in the Improved Hordes GitHub repository.
  • XML Files = The files that fall under the “Config” directory in the Improved Hordes mod folder.
  • Mod Author = FilUnderscore, the original author of the Improved Hordes mod.
  • Original Sources = GitHub, Forum

Use

You are allowed to use Improved Hordes with or without any kind of modifications made to its source material.

Distribution

  • You are not allowed to distribute the Binaries and/or Source Code and/or XML Files of Improved Hordes in exchange for payment.
  • You are allowed to distribute modifications made to the XML Files of the Improved Hordes mod provided you give appropriate credit to the Mod Author and provide a link to the original sources of Improved Hordes and these Terms of Use.
  • You are not allowed to distribute the original nor modified Binaries and/or Source Code of the Improved Hordes mod without prior written consent from the Mod Author.
  • You are allowed to distribute links to the original sources of Improved Hordes.

Modification

Any modifications made to the Improved Hordes Source Code and Binaries are limited to private use only if not stated otherwise with written consent from the Mod Author.

Liability

Mod Author is not responsible for any damage that may be caused during an incorrect or correct installation of Improved Hordes.

If you have been given written consent from the Mod Author to do one or more of the following: use, reuse, distribute, duplicate, copy or modify Improved Hordes outside of private use only, you are obligated to give appropriate credit to the Mod Author, provide a link to the original sources of Improved Hordes and these Terms of Use, and indicate if changes were made. You may do so in any reasonable matter, but not in any way that suggests the Mod Author endorses you or your use.

All rights to the Improved Hordes Binaries, Source Code, and XML Files are shared with The Fun Pimps.

Improved Hordes 2.0.2 for V1.2 B27 Released

Changelog

  • Compatibility update for V1.2 b27.

Fixed

  • Fixed improvedhordes command registration errors on game startup, preventing the mod from loading properly.
  • Fixed errors when removing horde entries from the hordes.xml file.

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Credits: FilUnderscore

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Furious Angel
Furious Angel
December 16, 2024 6:02 am

So the mod does not load for 7D2D version 1.2; gives a sea of red error before even starting a new game; something about couldn’t load 0Harmony and Error loading types from assembly

niqhe
niqhe
October 10, 2024 2:21 am

Are you gonna update to v1.1 14?

Dirkus
Dirkus
October 9, 2024 5:38 am

This mod has memory leaks

DocZ
DocZ
September 3, 2024 4:26 am

Love the MOD 9/2/24. However, it has a gradual memory leak and although it’s good the first day or so it gradually sucks the memory from the game. Everyone started having FPS issues first, a short second or two freezing, then day three, a horde attacked the house (not our purge base) but our “home base”. and the freezing was so bad I had to shut the server down mid attack (I have a Host Havoc server I rent) and remove the mod. I knew this was the issue as it was the last installed and the only time we have had any issues on the server with FPS or a memory drag.

Once the mod was removed and the server restarted there was NO lag whatsoever. Checked the system logs and it was beating he shit out of the memory.

From what I understand vanilla Hordes were a memory/FPS issue prior to the official release as the game was not optimized properly but since the release of 1.0 we have had NO issues with that either.

All that said, we LOVE this MOD. It adds an unknown to the game that A LOT of games today are missing. We could never predict when or where these hordes would show up and THAT in and of itself is well worth fixing this issue.

GreenShaDow42
GreenShaDow42
August 31, 2024 3:19 am

So this mod looks like it has potential and I’d really like to keep it on my server but we’re running into an issue. We log in, at home during the night, and since we’ve had this problem every night so far, we’re all crouched, have less than 5 stealth on all 4 of us, turned off all stoves/mixers/forge etc. Still run into this issue. Something is causing every single night a multi-screamer horde to constantly attack us. No matter what we do, we end up fighting a horde called by a screamer (who had no right to spawn or know we’re there) which calls 2 other screamers in the horde, which calls other screamers. We’ve had knights where we’ve killed 10+ screamers and their hordes…it’s kinda outta control and no settings I can find change this. We went from “Nights are a little boring and we’ll get housekeeping done” to “god dammit it’s almost night, get ready to fight screamer hordes…..”

saqwarrior
saqwarrior
August 1, 2024 11:18 pm

Hey, love the mod so far — thank you! Just one quick question: when I enter in the ‘help improvedhordes’ command, I get a non-English response. Is this intentional?

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
August 11, 2024 2:44 pm
Reply to  saqwarrior

Hi, no this is not intentional and hasn’t been reported so far. Do you happen to have a screenshot of what it says? Would be helpful as I’m unable to replicate this bug.

saqwarrior
saqwarrior
August 14, 2024 7:57 pm
Reply to  FilUnderscore

I tried again and can’t seem to replicate it myself. I’ll update you if I see it again, but for now it works fine.

Thank you!

larry
larry
July 30, 2024 9:15 pm

I tried the new version and while I was playing the console it kept spamming red messages, unfortunately I ended up dying because of this very thing since I couldn’t move :c

screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/EsoGuYi

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
July 31, 2024 9:20 am
Reply to  larry

Hi, are you running the latest version of the game (1.0 b333)?

larry
larry
July 31, 2024 12:05 pm
Reply to  FilUnderscore

It seems that this problem was due to my previous version to the new one, this problem no longer appears after updating the game, thanks for responding.

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
July 31, 2024 3:10 pm
Reply to  larry

Good to hear. There were some breaking changes in one of the experimental game builds which caused a couple of bug reports to come through until I updated the mod, which broke some backwards compatibility with some older 1.0 versions.

Warscar
Warscar
July 29, 2024 12:57 pm

Love the mod! Did a streaming series on it and we have a community server currently running it. Any chance you could make it fully compatible with BlackRabbitMsk’s Elite zombies (server side) mod? That one seems to be breaking some functionalities of your mod, from what I’ve tested (no more roaming hordes and the ones attracted to heat seem to default to the lowest difficulty?). In any case: thank you.

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
July 31, 2024 3:07 pm
Reply to  Warscar

With regards to the roaming hordes, you can check using the “ih stats” command in the console whether there are any hordes present in the world to confirm whether what you’re reporting is the case. The issue could be that the other mod increases zombie counts which prevents IH from spawning zombies (as to adhere to the spawn cap). With regards to the hordes that spawn that seem to have lesser/easier zombies than expected could either be RNG when they were generated/spawned in or the other mod could be affecting the player gamestage in some way. Again, these are only assumptions, and other mods shouldn’t break this one incidentally.

larry
larry
July 22, 2024 5:56 am

hello, the console showed some messages in red although it was not opened manually (if it were a serious problem), I realized this when opening the console by accident, although I did not notice anything strange in my world, in any case I leave a screenshot Is this a problem with the mod itself?

screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/GV1spBd

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
July 24, 2024 1:12 pm
Reply to  larry

Hey, thanks for providing a screenshot of the error. It seems harmless but I’ll look into it to see what could have caused it to occur.

McDimm
McDimm
July 14, 2024 5:19 pm

WRN [Improved Hordes] [ImprovedHordesMod] TrySaveData(): Failed to save data. Collection was modified; enumeration operation may not execute.

EXC Collection was modified; enumeration operation may not execute.

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
July 20, 2024 8:33 pm
Reply to  McDimm

Thanks for bringing up this error, it is harmless in the grand scheme of things as there is no risk of world corruption or anything like that if saves fail – worst case is that hordes you killed recently will have respawned somewhere else a bit earlier than expected.

This error arises from the fact that the mod does use a bit of multithreading to ease off complex calculations from the game thread and while that does come with its own set of issues, I am always looking to fix these things as they come up.

Keef_DGAF
Keef_DGAF
July 13, 2024 6:19 am

ok so i have it in 317 now and so far as i can see it IS working.. however the server console is getting spammed nearly continuously with

EXC MissingMethodException: Method not found: EntityBuffs/BuffStatus .EntityBuffs.AddBuff(string,int,bool,bool,bool,single)

any suggestions?

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
July 13, 2024 4:13 pm
Reply to  Keef_DGAF

Hi, thanks for reporting this bug. It has been fixed in the latest update 2.0.1-RC.3 and should now work with V1.0 b317.

Gabriel
Gabriel
July 12, 2024 6:41 pm

doesnt work in b316, once I encountered a screamer and it started to scream, literally my console filled with red lines and it goes forever. unplayabale

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
July 13, 2024 4:12 pm
Reply to  Gabriel

Hi, thanks for reporting this bug. It has been fixed in the latest update 2.0.1-RC.3 and should work with V1.0 b317. Apologies for any inconvenience it may have caused.

Gabriel
Gabriel
July 14, 2024 2:58 pm
Reply to  FilUnderscore

very nice to see an update so fast !
Thank you !

Rafael
Rafael
July 8, 2024 5:32 pm

Is there a way to disable these pop-up ads in chat?

https://ibb.co/HBrsBcV

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
July 8, 2024 7:47 pm
Reply to  Rafael

In the settings.xml file located in the Config/ImprovedHordes folder, you can set the “silence_init_msg” setting to “true” which will print those messages into the console instead.

Also just to clarify, those messages are not ads but rather information about the current mod version installed, both to help with bug reports and to verify that the mod has been correctly installed. These messages should only pop up once when starting up a world with Improved Hordes for the first time.

Mavericx
Mavericx
July 7, 2024 7:21 am

Hi,

Super glad you are updating for v1.0…thanks!!

Unfortunately I am getting errors when the game loads up – I did make sure to load “without EAC” and am running in experimental b313.

Here’s a picture of the errors; would love any feedback as to what I’m doing wrong?

https://ibb.co/C5KX0bR

Thx so much!

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
July 7, 2024 4:09 pm
Reply to  Mavericx

Hi, the error seems to be related to the 0Harmony DLL not being properly loaded on startup.

Please check that you have a 0_TFP_Harmony folder in your Mods folder which contains the 0Harmony.dll file. If it is missing, try verifying your game files, as it is a mod provided by TFP with the game.

Previously, this file was located in the 7DaysToDie_Data/Managed folder but it looks like TFP have decided to include it as a Mod for 1.0.

defqwop
defqwop
December 31, 2023 1:33 pm

this mod is good but i have the NPC mod, and it’s not compatible, it makes spawn 50 NPCs instead of a zombie horde. if you can fix this it would be insane cause this mod is really needed in the game

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
January 2, 2024 1:04 pm
Reply to  defqwop

This sounds like it may be an incompatibility with the NPC mod, perhaps a configuration error in one of the XML files. Are you using any other mods alongside NPC mod and Improved Hordes? The hordes.xml file defines the horde spawns and relies on the base game entitygroups.xml file, so if that file has been incorrectly modified by another mod then that would be the cause of this issue.

djskagnetti
djskagnetti
November 2, 2023 2:23 am

I’m playing war of the walkers and have dangerous cities as well. I didn’t get any hordes until day 3, I stayed in the trader overnight until I can get a base going, I heard them outside beating on the door. In the morning I went out there and there was a Ton of zombies, both regular and huge HP ones from WotW. I killed most of them and another horde came. I killed most of those and another horde came. I killed most of those and another horde came. It was like I’d kill most of them and the horde would just reset, they kept spawning from the same point, and walking towards the trader, even if I was off in the distance watching them and nowhere near the trader. All damn day this steady stream of zombies would come for me, it never stopped. I like killing zombies and had Random Hordes with dangerous cities last game which added a lot of zombies to kill. But the area cleared after a while, you had a pause in the action. This was just spawn, I’d kill a bunch, and they’d spawn again. Is it broken, is it broken because I have WotW, is it broken because I have dangerous cities, or is that how it’s supposed to work? Love the idea, but need a break to do missions n stuff… maybe if I leave the area and come back it will stop? Thanks much for your time making this

djskagnetti
djskagnetti
November 8, 2023 2:52 am
Reply to  djskagnetti

Hi, I just toughed it out and finally they stopped coming, but the hordes are brutal, especially at the start with War of the Walkers going and 1000 hp hell’s janitors coming at me. Now that I’m higher level they are great, I love the mod!

djskagnetti
djskagnetti
December 1, 2023 3:38 am
Reply to  djskagnetti

I love this mod, man. Got rid of WotW, droprate of loot was too much. Added a bunch of zombie mods to have a bunch of different zombies, and Wandering Horde Frequency for added oomph. Then I edited all the hps and droprates of loot for the zombies, and now I think I finally fine tuned it enough. I’m playing a map called “Mega cities only” Everyone should definitely check it out, great map! Thanks again for the mod!

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
January 2, 2024 1:07 pm
Reply to  djskagnetti

Glad to hear you’re enjoying the mod! In response to one of your previous questions, if you are playing with POI dense maps, you will have exponentially more hordes present in the world as horde populations depend on POIs in the world. You may choose to increase the repopulation settings in the settings.xml if you’re finding that you can’t clear out hordes faster than they repopulate. Additionally, hordes are attracted to sight, heat, and sound so playing stealthier will always result in less hordes being attracted to you.

Arlex
Arlex
October 11, 2023 4:36 am

So one major issue with the mod is that you can’t hide from hordes using the sneak mode. Other zombies can be lured and you can sneak away but the moment you get too close to a horde, it doesn’t matter what level your sneak skill is, they will all auto lock you and attack.

Makes my current stealth build almost useless, but other than that, a great mod.

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
January 2, 2024 1:09 pm
Reply to  Arlex

The mod integrates with the vanilla stealth system, which I don’t think allows you to achieve perfect 100% stealth, but there are still some bits to improve such as sleeper horde player detection, and as you’ve mentioned the stealth around wandering hordes. Thanks for the feedback!

Petrol4Ever
Petrol4Ever
October 10, 2023 1:57 am

Honestly, this should be in the base game. Great work! 🙂

kiddo
kiddo
August 17, 2023 2:13 pm

The mods, unfortunately disable screamer spawning…

I’ve tried on implements on my server to play with friends. but after long play i noticed there are not screamers at all spawned in game, even when spawned using commands.

i’ve reproduce the bugs on private game and yes screamers not shows up.
Is this intended function?

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
August 18, 2023 4:16 pm
Reply to  kiddo

Vanilla screamers are currently disabled with the mod installed, I’m wanting to further customize their behavior in a future update and balance them relative to the rest of the mod, so not a bug right now – they still spawn in towns/cities.

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
August 25, 2023 4:32 pm
Reply to  kiddo

I’ve temporarily re-enabled vanilla screamers until a new wilderness spawned screamer horde type is implemented in a future update. For now, this should be fixed in the latest version 2.0.0-beta.5.

Kugle
Kugle
August 17, 2023 5:12 am

Does this mod have compatibility issues with other mods that may effect zombie populations or something or perhaps it doesnt like it when you only play on one biome?

Ive been trying to create a new world and wouldnt be able to get past the spawn chunks before falling out of the world into the void and getting lots of console errors. After removing this mod this no longer happens. Is this just a new bug to report?

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
August 17, 2023 5:52 pm
Reply to  Kugle

Sounds like unexpected behavior. Could you provide a log of the error through pastebin? It would help to figure out what might be causing it. Thanks!

Kugle
Kugle
August 21, 2023 4:56 am
Reply to  FilUnderscore

Ill try, where could I find this error log?

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
August 22, 2023 2:55 pm
Reply to  Kugle

Open the console when in-game with F1 and click the “Open Logs Folder” button in the top-right corner of the screen.

Rob
Rob
August 13, 2023 12:58 am

I am getting a lot of errors on Dedicated Server. I removed this and it is working fine. All “work items”. Forge, workbench, cement mixer, etc. Would burn wood but would only work if I was in them. They would stop making items if I was out of them, but still burn the wood. This is A21.1(b16)

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
August 17, 2023 5:50 pm
Reply to  Rob

Looking into this!

Rob
Rob
August 25, 2023 6:56 am
Reply to  FilUnderscore

I like this mod. Did you look into this?

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
August 25, 2023 4:33 pm
Reply to  Rob

Update on this issue: This has been fixed in the latest version 2.0.0-beta.5. Thanks again for reporting it, let me know if it comes back!

Rob
Rob
August 30, 2023 3:47 am
Reply to  FilUnderscore

THANK YOU! I will try it.

Megavega
Megavega
August 6, 2023 12:22 am

Hi I’ve been using the mod since latest release and for the most part it seems to be working, except on day 4 i’ve noticed screamers spawning almost constantly. Seems like they spawn every 2 minutes and it’s quite annoying. Any idea of how I can fix this issue?

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
August 6, 2023 5:19 pm
Reply to  Megavega

Might be a bug with hordes respawning when they are killed, I think if you leave the area and return it should fix itself. I’ll try get it fixed as quickly as possible.

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
August 9, 2023 4:43 pm
Reply to  FilUnderscore

Can confirm this bug has been fixed in the latest release 2.0.0-beta.3. There was a bug where entities being killed would not properly update the horde size.

Megavega
Megavega
August 9, 2023 8:42 pm
Reply to  FilUnderscore

Thanks for the update 🙂

BadKarma
BadKarma
August 1, 2023 1:25 am

Broken in A21.1 (b12)
Gets red exception errors. 🙁
Was working fine in (b6)

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
August 1, 2023 8:01 pm
Reply to  BadKarma

Hasn’t been updated for A21.1 experimental yet, keep an eye out in the next couple of days.

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
August 2, 2023 5:50 pm
Reply to  BadKarma

Update 2.0.0-beta.2 has been released for A21.1 experimental b12.

The Red Panda
The Red Panda
July 29, 2023 6:02 am

Hey, I love this mod. It works great most of the time EXCEPT in the Wasteland.
In the plains, desert, and snow it’s worked great. I run into a couple of hordes every now and then when I’m traveling and then in cities I run into them pretty often, but they’re never too overwhelming. Sometimes they pile up if I’m inside a POI and make a lot of noise and all of a sudden I’ll have dozens of zombies streaming in through a hole in the wall, but I enjoy the challenge from that and it makes the game a lot more dynamic.

HOWEVER

The Wasteland spawns. Every other biome has been fine. Today I decided to go into the Wasteland for the first time using this mod. I biked to a medium sized town in the wasteland. I encountered a small horde of 6-12 zombies with some rads and ferals and decided to fight them. They were killed pretty easily and I thought I was good, right? Next thing I know there’s a dozen more zombies rushing at me. Okay, I can handle this. They’re dead. But then I turn around and see more. And more. And more. And more. And I run around pumping the crowds of radiated cops and mutants and ferals full of shotgun shells, or swinging with a L6 steel club. But no matter how many dozens I killed I would turn around and there would be more coming. I’m not sure how many there were but I wouldn’t have been surprised if there were more than the 64 cap. I’m fairly certain that any zombie I killed was instantly being respawned just out of sight. I’d say I killed at least a hundred zombies before I realized. There was a feral screamer which I killed but the zombies didn’t stop after that, and I didn’t hear or see any other screamers.

Mind you, this wasn’t nearby a large city or anything. I didn’t get a chance to explore it thoroughly but it was a medium sized town, probably with mostly T2 and T3 buildings with maybe one or two T4s. I even ran a bit out of town and I still had zombies coming out from the trees. Game stage 74, level 47. I’ve also installed the Dangerous Cities mod, which I don’t know if that’d have an effect and cause this bug.

Overall, it was really bizarre to go to the Wasteland and find a horde half a dozen times more difficult than the Blood Moon hordes I was facing. Really a shame because I love the mod otherwise – it makes the game so much more interesting since zombies can actually pose a threat outside of POIs, and cities are much more dangerous which is how I feel the game should be in vanilla.

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
July 29, 2023 3:02 pm
Reply to  The Red Panda

Hi,

The zombie spawns past 64 are a bug which is being fixed next update (ETA next couple of days). I’ve reworked some of the horde spawning code to prevent it from happening again. Some AI changes to hordes are also coming.

Wasteland spawns can be scaled in the settings file, see the option “horde_biome_curve_scale” at https://github.com/FilUnderscore/ImprovedHordes/wiki/Settings#horde_biome_curve_scale

You may want to set it to a value closer to 1.0 if you want hordes much closer to other biomes, but setting it below 1.0 will result in less hordes in harder biomes.

Make sure to run “improvedhordes flush” in the console when loading in after changing the settings to put them in effect immediately. Be warned however that hordes will be repopulated across the map, so you may need to clear them out again in some areas.

Thanks for your feedback, will look at scaling back some of the wasteland hordes for default settings.

SlayerQc
SlayerQc
July 18, 2023 6:38 am

Mod ain’t working properly/respecting Zombies cap as I had over 100 zombies alive in a wasteland city and needed to use Killall 3 times in a row to sort out the situation.

I created a serverconfig.xml with MaxSpawnedZombies set to 40 and will see tomorrow if that solve the issue but I believe the mod should use the default value of 64 even without a serverconfig file.

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
July 18, 2023 11:38 am
Reply to  SlayerQc

This is running the latest version? The mod should obey the MaxSpawnedZombies game preference that is set, and listed when you type “getgamepref” in the console.

If it’s not obeying it, must be a bug and I’ll look into it.

Lucho
Lucho
July 17, 2023 11:11 pm

is the mod stable? also, does it work with “Server Side Zombies PLUS”, “EliteZombies”, “Return of the Behemoth” — and i don’t mean for it to spawn them in the hordes for it to say it works but for it to work in general with this mods.

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
July 18, 2023 11:36 am
Reply to  Lucho

Mod is in beta so no game breaking bugs so far, stable release still a few weeks away I’d say. It should be compatible with almost all mods, including the ones you’ve listed.

Eric Clifford
Eric Clifford
July 1, 2023 3:17 am

Is this stable for Alpha 21 yet?

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
July 1, 2023 8:14 am
Reply to  Eric Clifford

Sorry! Not yet, but it is starting to enter a beta phase soon where most of the bugs should be ironed out and more balanced. Still working on getting it there, thanks to everyone with their feedback so far.

Chrispy
Chrispy
June 28, 2023 8:46 am

Can you even defeat these hordes? I literally cant move in my base without getting bumrushed by 64 zombies. I’m not even sure I can defeat the hordes either, or if I’m just throwing ammo away. they’re all feral, and about 40% radiated. I love the idea of these hordes, but this is ridiculous. I can’t even lead them away from my base. I upgraded one block from wood to cobble, and watched as the entire treeline half a mile away erupted in a sea of radiated zombies.

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
June 28, 2023 3:01 pm
Reply to  Chrispy

Hi, some info would be useful for feedback on balancing the horde difficulties. What biome are you located in and are you near a dense town/city, and what gamestage are you roughly at? This feedback helps a lot in making the mod a better addition to the game.

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
June 28, 2023 3:02 pm
Reply to  Chrispy

And to add, this is using the latest version? Thanks so much.

ViralMag
ViralMag
June 25, 2023 12:09 pm

Interesting mod …. didn’t tweak any of the mod setting … game set as (7 days between hordes, nomad, 16 zombies irrc on blood moon, and 64 total zombies on map, pregen 10k map) on 1st horde night was ok then apparently they decided to call all their friends lol. The final tally 2 constant days of fighting later, zombie death count was at 1900+. Rocket launchers apparently really raise the heat level (call to dinner bell) and the zombies are very curious, never got a screamer during that though.
But if you want Walking Dead Mega hordes level of OMG give this mod a shot. I will keep this in my modlist, kinda curious what a city horde is like. Appreciate the work put into making this, really works well with the Relic/Artifact mod

TheRedThread
TheRedThread
June 21, 2023 8:53 pm

We’ve been playing for like 2 days with a friend ( so only two player ) we’re low level ( 5-6) and we keep getting horde and horde comming to our base every 2 m, we tried to tweak the settings but i don’t really know the scale/balance. Is this what you intented to do with this mod and does the tweakings really change something ( we litteraly keep getting aggros by 20 zombies and at least 2 to 3 witches per “waves” ). If it’s possible to hard nerf the mod do you have a recommandation of values for the different settings pls ?

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
June 22, 2023 6:46 pm
Reply to  TheRedThread

Please see the latest reply to Winter Steale, new version (2.0.0-alpha.4) has more options for spawning and has been tweaked to have less hordes and zombies by default.

Chase Gwaltney
Chase Gwaltney
June 23, 2023 4:25 am
Reply to  FilUnderscore

Thank you for your work thiis is a must have mod.

Winter Steale
Winter Steale
June 21, 2023 5:57 am

Trying to figure out the settings. I went to the wiki but it still isn’t very easy to understand. I have had servers for a while and some basic knowledge of changing files but not a pc whiz. I have this on our server and we are getting wandering hordes every 5-10 mins, mostly all feral & loads of them. What else do I need to change besides max count per player to tweak this? I would like more time in between them as well as slightly smaller size.
Also, can’t find the add-on for the screamers to reduce either. Any help is greatly appreciated.

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
June 21, 2023 3:13 pm
Reply to  Winter Steale

Wandering hordes in the A21 version no longer spawn randomly, and instead now roam the world at all times. You can encounter one if you happen to pass by. They respawn every 7 days for now.

Horde difficulty is still dependent on gamestage, though tweaks are still being made. Feel free to edit the hordes file if you’re finding you’re getting too many ferals at your current gamestage.

You can reduce the max horde density setting if you’d like smaller hordes, as well as the max world density which will reduce the number of hordes in the world.

Add-ons will be updated closer to the stable release, as the A21 version is still in experimental development and testing.

Winter Steale
Winter Steale
June 21, 2023 6:38 pm
Reply to  FilUnderscore

So the hordes are always roaming and no spawn? Our main base is in a field a bit of a way out from the town. We will get horde after horde every few minutes for about 6-8 waves and then finally a stretch of quiet. 3 of us play together usually and we are all in the low 30’s for levels. The way we get wave after wave after wave for a while and then nothing is so strange. Thank you so much for explaining the settings to me. I really like this mod and the challenge it brings. It adds more (un)life back into the game and definitely keeps you on your toes. Sure takes mining to a whole new level. 😀 Will the hordes be different in each biome as well?

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
June 21, 2023 8:36 pm
Reply to  Winter Steale

Yeah, the problem I wanted to focus on was that the world wasn’t feeling quite alive. I’ve left the vanilla wandering hordes enabled which means you still get the random vanilla spawns (previously I disabled them and implemented my own system). Instead I’ve decided to switch the mod’s focus to having roaming hordes that you can encounter and follow throughout the world on a large scale, since that’s what the game is missing. The roaming hordes also react to stuff like gunshots in the distance which forces you to play smarter. With biomes, hordes currently only scale in size with the forest having smaller hordes and the wasteland having much larger hordes.

Winter Steale
Winter Steale
June 22, 2023 4:10 am
Reply to  FilUnderscore

Yes that makes sense and makes it more dynamic that way. We get pretty good size hordes in the forest so I’m curious to see the difference in other biomes.
May I ask if any of your mod works with max alive zeds set by base game settings? Meaning if we kill of a bunch in a horde does that trigger more to start instantly spawning to replace them? Would that trigger another horde? Just trying to figure out how we would get so many successive waves in one day/night so consistently.

Winter Steale
Winter Steale
June 22, 2023 4:22 am
Reply to  FilUnderscore

Oh and by default how many hordes are in the world? Like in the world density setting. Sorry so many questions

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
June 22, 2023 6:45 pm
Reply to  FilUnderscore

Just released a new version (2.0.0-alpha.4) on the forums which should be updated here soon as well. This version adds extra settings to fine tune hordes spawned throughout the world, though I’ve lowered the number of wilderness hordes (and slightly increased the number of hordes in towns). Should result in fewer hordes. I’ve also slightly nerfed the size of hordes, so it should be more manageable. Additionally, killed hordes will now save and repopulate every 7 days (default setting), whereas before they would re-spawn every time you started the world. In response to your question, the waves you are encountering could be either A. the following as you’ve mentioned (this is for performance reasons, and come from the same direction as the horde spawned), and B. other hordes that happened to be alerted to your location.

BadKarma
BadKarma
June 18, 2023 6:02 pm

Working great in latest A21 Exp! Thanks

Smigol
Smigol
June 18, 2023 5:19 pm

– Zombies spawn or despawn in front of you
– Too many zombies are spawning and this is Very High performence issue
-Looting bigger POI is hard cuz hordes are tearing POI appart

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
June 19, 2023 6:58 am
Reply to  Smigol

A21 version is still in a testing phase so it may be unbalanced in some places, if it’s causing a problem feel free to wait for the stable release of the mod which should perform better.

Berser
Berser
June 26, 2023 7:52 pm
Reply to  FilUnderscore

SPAM Console

TickExecute(Single): Tried to despawn horde entities but no entities were spawned.

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
June 19, 2023 7:01 am
Reply to  Smigol

Additionally, feel free to change the mod settings (see how to do this on the Improved Hordes wiki) to lower the number of zombies that spawn at a time in the meantime.

Shommy
Shommy
May 9, 2023 12:50 pm

Hi. I was wandering is it possible to make the mod to increase spawning and hordes with all the downloaded zombies and NPCs from mods folder. Like if it could be a priority mod for whatever zombie mods you add.
And also is it possible to make a mod to force all imported zombies and NPC spawn in all gamestages, hordes, and all biomes randomly? And random sleepers also – NPCs, zombies etc.

I was editing many files in a19 and got so many different zombies spawn everywehere, but now it’s more complicated cause there are more zombies added, and more files edited, so it would take much time. If it’s possible to add something like “zombies all” line in config files it could be great, if someone knows how to do it.

Thanks in advance.

Chris cameron
Chris cameron
March 15, 2023 5:47 am

Gave this mod a run over two weeks on our dedicated server, really wanted it work, but found too many issues:

-Too many hordes, minimum twice a day, good luck trying to mine.
-often feral
-horde always zero in on our base or mining area, and even if we were silent, the zombies didn’t move on and would continue hitting the walls below our six story base.
I tweaked and tested every setting in settings.xml and nothing would change (always reset the schedule with console command).
The other mods we have installed are izayos weapon packs and ‘enzombies’, but surely these don’t conflict with wandering hordes.
I really wanted an upgrade on the vanilla wandering hordes, but this mod made It feel like a non stop blood moon.

MG
MG
April 16, 2023 9:08 pm
Reply to  Chris cameron

interesting, I just tried it out on our dedicated server and had a similar experience in the opposite direction: We couldnt get any hordes to spawn (aside from day 7) no matter what changes we did to the settings.xml. I iteratively cranked the min and max events per week, but nothing happened. Uninstalling and just going to use a 2x

Angela
Angela
February 17, 2023 3:13 am

We are playing War of the Walkers overhaul mod. Will this work or interfere in any way? TIA!

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
February 21, 2023 12:15 pm
Reply to  Angela

Compatibility with overhauls has not been tested, but shouldn’t interfere. You can always remove it without any damage to your savegame.

moshpitllama
moshpitllama
January 16, 2023 1:42 pm

Does it work as intended if playing without bloodmoon?

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
January 19, 2023 4:47 pm
Reply to  moshpitllama

Yep.

Quinn
Quinn
September 6, 2022 11:40 pm

Does this mod add to how many zombies can be active on a game at one time (I believe the default is 64?) or is it still capped at 64 zombies allowed

FilUnderscore
FilUnderscore
September 16, 2022 3:26 pm
Reply to  Quinn

It caps to the max zombie count (default is 64) that’s set in the serverconfig.xml file (both multiplayer/single player).

DragonWhite
DragonWhite
January 3, 2022 3:34 am

comment on peut régler le mod?